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Message: [QUOTE="birdman666, post: 5909312, member: 445305"] I am also of the opinion that both situations should be distinguished, because they are completely different. In your book "Heads-up No Limit Hold'em" you mention that future betting can work against a player shortly after defining the implied odds, but you don't mention the reverse implied odds. At the time I was reading it, I also found other sources relating reverse implied odds with drawing dead, actually I believe there are more sources using this last definition. So I thought about calling "reverse implied odds" for drawing dead situations and just "disadvantageous future bets" for marginal hands. But since I still found many sources calling "reverse implied odds" to both cases, I decided to do the same, thinking that it is the fact that the opponent has implied odds against us that defines the reverse implied odds. Nevertheless, this is the concept that has given me the most trouble in poker theory, and I am curious to know what is the real origin of the term. Maybe a mathematical definition would help clarifying this, but while it is easy to write a formula for the implied odds starting from the ordinary pot odds, I don't believe there exists a formula for the reverse implied odds. Being just a qualitative definition helps a lot in diverging it. Anyway, both definitions make perfect sense for me. [/QUOTE]

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